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nfcdcu at pipeline.com (N
11-06-1995, 12:08 PM
I am responding on behalf of Cliff Rosenthal, our Executive Director, to a
number of points that have been raised in this discussion group over the
past few days.

Self-Help CU of Durham, NC, our largest member, is unusual in many ways.
The credit union is actually part of a larger organization, the Center for
Community Self-Help, which has the basic structure described by Bill Myers
in his earlier posting. There is also a loan fund included within this
larger organization to perform lending that the credit union cannot.

It should also be noted that Self-Help, like Santa Cruz Community Credit
Union, is state chartered. If they were federally chartered, they would
probably have a harder time doing what they do. Federally chartered credit
unions are permitted to do small business lending, but it is regulated in
the manner described by Bill Myers. In some states, that regulation is not
as restrictive.

Cal Hollis correctly pointed out that charter type is not an issue in
performing small business lending, so long as the businesses to be served
are included within the credit union's field of membership. There is no
such thing as a "community development" charter. The term community
development credit union was coined by this organization slightly more than
twenty years ago to describe credit unions that serve predominantly
low-income communities with the goal of developing those communities.
CDCUs are self designated, and they have no special powers or abilities.

More recently, the National Credit Union Administration developed a
low-income designation for credit unions whose fields of membership are
predominantly low-income; that is, if 50.1% or more of their fields of
membership make less than 80% of the national median household income.
This designation is not equivalent to being a CDCU. Not all CDCUs have the
low-income designation, or vice versa. This designation does confer
certain powers. Basically, low-income designated credit unions are allowed
to accept deposits from non-members, where credit unions without this
designation cannot. This designation does not affect the products and
services that a credit union is allowed to offer.
--
Morgan N. Sandquist
National Federation of Community Development Credit Unions
120 Wall Street - 10th Floor
New York, NY 10005-3902
(212) 809-1850
(212) 809-3274 - Fax
nfcdcu@pipeline.com - E-Mail


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tmartin at CapAccess.org
11-07-1995, 04:50 PM
On Mon, 6 Nov 1995, National Federation of Community Development Credit Unions wrote:

> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:47:10 -0500
> From: National Federation of Community Development Credit Unions <nfcdcu@pipeline.com>
> To: COMMUNITYDEVELOPMENTBANKING-L@cornell.edu
> Subject: Self-Help, NFCDCU, etc.
>
>
> It should also be noted that Self-Help, like Santa Cruz Community Credit
> Union, is state chartered. If they were federally chartered, they would
> probably have a harder time doing what they do. Federally chartered credit
> unions are permitted to do small business lending, but it is regulated in
> the manner described by Bill Myers. In some states, that regulation is not
> as restrictive.
>

Therein lies the case that the option to have state chartered credit
unions ( and a option to NCUSIF insurance) is more inportant to CDCUs.

And thus opposition to the current so called "CURE" legislation being
pushed by the Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee.

Tom


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dmorris at mtn.org
11-08-1995, 12:38 PM
Thomas,

Could you tell me something about the CURE legislation as it affects state
chartered credit unions? Several people have mentioned how state charters allow
more flexibility for credit unions. Is that always the case? Are there
advantages to having a federal charter?

In message <Pine.SUN.3.91-FP.951107141747.13689D-100000@cap1.capaccess.org>
writes:

> > It should also be noted that Self-Help, like Santa Cruz Community Credit
> > Union, is state chartered. If they were federally chartered, they would
> > probably have a harder time doing what they do. Federally chartered credit
> > unions are permitted to do small business lending, but it is regulated in
> > the manner described by Bill Myers. In some states, that regulation is not
> > as restrictive.
> >
>
> Therein lies the case that the option to have state chartered credit
> unions ( and a option to NCUSIF insurance) is more inportant to CDCUs.
>
> And thus opposition to the current so called "CURE" legislation being
> pushed by the Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee.
>
> Tom


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tmartin at CapAccess.org
11-09-1995, 03:59 AM
On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, David Morris wrote:

> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:43:20 -0600
> From: David Morris <dmorris@mtn.org>
> To: COMMUNITYDEVELOPMENTBANKING-L@cornell.edu
> Subject: Re: Self-Help, NFCDCU, etc.
>
> Thomas,
>
> Could you tell me something about the CURE legislation as it affects state
> chartered credit unions? Several people have mentioned how state charters allow
> more flexibility for credit unions. Is that always the case? Are there
> advantages to having a federal charter?
>
> In message <Pine.SUN.3.91-FP.951107141747.13689D-100000@cap1.capaccess.org>
> writes:
>
> > > It should also be noted that Self-Help, like Santa Cruz Community Credit
> > > Union, is state chartered. If they were federally chartered, they would
> > > probably have a harder time doing what they do. Federally chartered credit
> > > unions are permitted to do small business lending, but it is regulated in
> > > the manner described by Bill Myers. In some states, that regulation is not
> > > as restrictive.
> > >
> >
> > Therein lies the case that the option to have state chartered credit
> > unions ( and a option to NCUSIF insurance) is more inportant to CDCUs.
> >
> > And thus opposition to the current so called "CURE" legislation being
> > pushed by the Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee.
> >
> > Tom
>
>
> ******************
> David Morris
> ILSR
> 1313 5th St. SE
> Mpls, MN 55414
> ph: 612 379 3815
> fax: 612 379 3920
> e-mail: dmorris@ilsr.org
> Web Page: http://www.great-lakes.net:2200/0/partners/ILSR/ILSRhome.html
> *******************
>
>
>

One can not gereralize when there are fifty states. But, many states
have credit union acts more flexable that the Federal Credit Union Act,
more flexable rules and regulations than the federal credit union rules
and regulations; and more flexable chartering authorities, regulators,
and examiners. Of course there may be states which are more strict.

The Wisconsin, Kansas, and Rhode Island credit union acts are ones I know
are more flexable. In Minnesota there a number of larger credit unions
under the state act, which I assume means they find that beneficial.

If CURE were enacted; the option of cooperatively insured & state
chartered credit unions would be out of business because of provisions
unfriendly to such credit unions.

And if the current trend of ever increasing NCUA power continues; a
NCUSIF insured state chartered credit union will be very little different
from a federal credit union.

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DRizzo2327 at aol.com
11-09-1995, 09:34 AM
And if the consolidation of large banks continues, without relief from local
credit unions and lending institutions, there will be no local credit to grow
with.


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