PEOs

[LStoney95 at aol.com]

I am interested in learning more about Private Employer Organizations (PEOs).
I have been told that they have been an effective strategy for helping home
health care aides and small employers in the health care field to access health
insurance. I am interested in exploring this strategy for the child care
field, i.e. establishing a PEO that can becomes the joint employer of caregivers
at small child care centers as well as the employer of record for family-based
child care.

Does anyone know anything about this strategy and how it has been used? I did
a google search on PEO and didn't bring up much.


Louise Stoney
Alliance for Early Childhood Finance
308 Thais Road
Averill Park, NY 12018
518-674-5635
Fax 518-674-3025
http://economicdevelopment.cce.cornell.edu


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[hgsfcu at shrevefcu.org]

I recently conducted a training class in Birmingham for lower asset
community development credit unions. I met someone from the Alabama
Credit union League (Corinne Goble) who introduced me to this concept.
I am planning to have her visit our credit union and do a presentation
during our annual planning session. We are exploring services we can
offer to the small businesses in our field of membership. Her contact
info:
cgoble@acul.com <mailto:egoble@acul.com> or
1-205-991-9710/1-800-846-8374
Please keep in touch so that I can learn with you as we explore
utilizations.
Helen Godfrey
Pres/CEO-Shreveport Federal Credit Union
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Subject: PEOs

I am interested in learning more about Private Employer Organizations
(PEOs). I have been told that they have been an effective strategy for
helping home health care aides and small employers in the health care
field to access health insurance. I am interested in exploring this
strategy for the child care field, i.e. establishing a PEO that can
becomes the joint employer of caregivers at small child care centers as
well as the employer of record for family-based child care.

Does anyone know anything about this strategy and how it has been used?
I did a google search on PEO and didn't bring up much.


Louise Stoney
Alliance for Early Childhood Finance
308 Thais Road
Averill Park, NY 12018
518-674-5635
Fax 518-674-3025
http://economicdevelopment.cce.cornell.edu
<http://economicdevelopment.cce.cornell.edu/>


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[bbeckett at chryspac.com]

Hi, Louise:

It is a great strategy! Were a small company and have been using a
Professional Employer Organization ("PEO") for three years. The one we
selected was recommended by our local chamber of commerce which
organized a study committee to evaluate the PEO services available in
Milwaukee. On their recommendation, we hired a Chicago company that
has a Milwaukee office. I'd contact the Metro Milwaukee Association of
Commerce at (414) 287-4100 for a somewhat "scientific" analysis of
PEO's. As a user, I'm very pleased with our choice and the service.
Our PEO provides health, dental, life, 401K, credit union, and an
employee assistance hotline for just about any issue that comes up.
They also assign an experienced human resources consultant, in our
case, one experienced in manufacturing HR, who is available on an
on-call basis. This was instantly available once we signed up. If I
had to do it, we'd still be trying to figure out how the 401K should
work.

We've found the level of skill of our consultant to be exceptional.
This is something we could not afford if we wanted to hire an on-staff
person. She's coached us through numerous personnel issues from
posting of government labor laws to drafting personnel handbook (in
Spanish and English). She's sat in on sensitive employee terminations,
harassment complaints, helped draft the safety policy. They offer
supervisory and management training, as well. All of the advice we
receive is based upon the most recent changes in the laws and
contemporary best practices. Best of all everything is included in the
basic fee.

The fee is a % of payroll, including withholdings and benefits. The
fee amount gets a little "fuzzy" and is burried in the % charged, so
you have to "impute" the actual cost by subtracting taxes, withholdings
and the total benefit costs based upon the benefit options selected by
each employee. After doing all that, we found the fee to be very
reasonable. It is something we evaluate every year as we grow,
however. However, to hire someone with the collective knowledge and
resources of a PEO is well beyond the budget of small employers. You
cannot put a price on the comfort derived from the PEO's sharing of
legal liability as a "co-employer", however. I'm sure their lawyers
are specialists in their field.

Since choosing a PEO, I've been approached by several other companies.
I'm very happy with the one we selected, thanks to our local chamber of
commerce who's evaluation helped to mitigate a lot of the risk. Good
luck!

Bill Beckett, President & CEO
CHRYSPAC: ISO 9001-2000 Certified
2107 South 1st Street, PO Box 169
Milwaukee, WI 53201-0169
414-406-3710 Cell
414-744-8550 Office
414-744-8605 Fax
bbeckett@chryspac.com E-mail

Please visit our web page: www.chryspac.com

On Sep, 14 2004, , at 1:18 PM, LStoney95@aol.com wrote:

> I am interested in learning more about Private Employer Organizations
> (PEOs). I have been told that they have been an effective strategy for
> helping home health care aides and small employers in the health care
> field to access health insurance. I am interested in exploring this
> strategy for the child care field, i.e. establishing a*PEO that can
> becomes the joint employer of caregivers at small child care centers
> as well as the employer of record for family-based child care.
> *
> Does anyone know anything about this strategy and how it has been
> used? I did a google search on PEO and didn't bring up much.
> *
> *
> Louise Stoney
> Alliance for Early Childhood Finance
> 308 Thais Road
> Averill Park, NY 12018
> 518-674-5635
> Fax 518-674-3025
> http://economicdevelopment.cce.cornell.edu


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[Workinstitute at shu.edu]

The Institute on Work at Seton Hall Univ., as part of our Mission to bring
Catholic social teachings into the workplace, has studied the temp industry
and various other employer strategies to externalize costs and has helped
create high road alternatives.

It's all in the ethics of the intermediary and what framework they
must/should follow. For whom do they actually work???

Re: PEOs:

1. they have been marketed to small, new employers as a high tech, slick,
outsourced method of cost cutting; an alternative to building an HR
department.

2. in Florida and other states, many have crashed due to
accounting/management manipulations of their self insurance schemes.

3. many liability issues remain, even if set up honorably and soundly: who
is the real employer? with HR eliminated, who is responsible for screening,
training, supervision?

Contact Tim Costello at North Am. Alliance for Fair Employment, a Ford and
Rockefeller supported network of contingent work
advocacy/research/community groups for more info and referrals to people
who know more. He's at 617-482-6300 or tim@fairjobs.org.
In NYC there is a Coalition for Worker Ed. (name?) which has set up entity
which provides home day care providers with training, computers, insurance
for liability and health, and union membership. They may use PEO....
The SEIU union in the Chicago area has developed temp agencies friendly to
workers and providing health insurance and they may also use PEOs....


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I am interested in learning more about Private Employer Organizations
(PEOs). I have been told that they have been an effective strategy for
helping home health care aides and small employers in the health care field
to access health insurance. I am interested in exploring this strategy for
the child care field, i.e. establishing a*PEO that can becomes the joint
employer of caregivers at small child care centers as well as the employer
of record for family-based child care.

Does anyone know anything about this strategy and how it has been used? I
did a google search on PEO and didn't bring up much.


Louise Stoney
Alliance for Early Childhood Finance
308 Thais Road
Averill Park, NY 12018
518-674-5635
Fax 518-674-3025
http://economicdevelopment.cce.cornell.edu



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